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Mon Jul 5th, 2010, 10:31 pm
I believe that every side of a story should be heard...
Hello there everyone on LS,
sorry to everyone who has been worried about me over the past few months, I've been MiA, my deepest apologies. I needed to find a new home for my family and had to do a whole lot of moving (anyone who knows me, knows how much stuff I own and can only imagine how tedious is was to move it all ) but I'm starting to get settled into my new home, no where near unpacked yet ^^; but I'm attempting to get there...but now have internet and a new computer to now make posts a bit more easily.(my old laptop had quite the accident in Jan. (it was accidentally slammed on by a trunk and a hole was punctured straight through the computer) several people were with me when it happened and many people saw my broken laptop months after it happened, as I didn't have the heart to throw it away at the time)
I've made this separate thread to keep this all simple and in one area that's easy to find. I want everyone to know not only why I have not prioritized this BS and have been keeping to myself and just trying to take care of my family and myself.
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I want to start off from the beginning so everyone knows exactly what's been going on...
first off I created a beautiful doll that I put lots of love and heart into, then I was
viciously attacked as a copy artist (this was NOT the first time this has happened, I've been accused with almost every doll I've ever made, I'm sure it will not be the last time either....as there are many people in the community that have voiced their deep hatred of me (Hatred caused by petty jealously)) by a horrible low life group called Den of Demons (I will explain why I refer to them this way further down in the thread, trust me I have a reason)
here is a few pics lined up of my doll and the doll in question that I was accused of copying:
(these pics were not taken by me, they were taken by Amber Bailey one of the owners of the ae heads that I sold back in October due to disappointment of mismatching)...as the past few months I had been excessively busy with
house hunting, packing up my old house and moving into my new house, so I sent my prototype doll off to another to photograph and compare), several people here on LS knew I sent my prototype off to another, one other even helped me pack and ship it off. there was someone else who was also cc'd on the emails with Amber and even saw the comparison photo's before I even saw them (the photos I'm posting are NOT the only ones taken, but these are a sufficient start IMO)
this pic I'm posting separately (but re-sized in PB) as a laugh to show people
that if I really wanted to mess with EXIF data, I'd mess with it:

to any that don't know how to look at the exif data I'll take a screen cap of it a bit later for you: but just to give you a bit on what it says, this pics's exif data says that it was taken by the Hubble space telescope and the date of the Hubble's launch is the "date created" date and it also says it was taken with special lighting used by the hubble as well...^_^
thought it would be funny to mess with people that think that EXIF data is unchangeable and absolute ^_^
here is the email that was sent to me along with the photos that were taken of the two doll heads: (I've blanked out emails, as others that were sent the same info at the same time I'm sure do NOT wish to be harassed by the low lives of the DOD hate site)
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> From: Amber Bailey <**************@gmail.com>
> Date: April 28, 2010 3:57:13 AM EDT
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> To: ***********************
> Cc: *****************
subject here is a side by side line up of your ls doll and that ae doll head....
mailed-by gmail.com
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hey there,
first off I'd like to say, there are quite a few differences that sets them apart to definitely say they are not copies. I tried to have them facing as much of the same direction as possible so it's easy to tell the differences and I also used a white ground background, as it's so much easier to tell the differences without background interfering with the subjects appearing shape. sorry they are not the best of pictures, I have a bit of a crappy camera, I tried to take a bunch after this set but all were blurry and far worse than what I'm sending you. I'll try to take more later if necessary, but I won't be able to really take the time to set up anything good for a couple of weeks, I'll be heading out to lax to meet up with a college buddy who scored me a free plane ticket to go hang with her. I will have my laptop and the pics I've already taken of them, I'll go through them again and see if there is anymore important ones I should send on top of these 5. they are all from different angles so to help show the differences as best as possible.
well I guess it's not like you are in a rush or anything, you're moving like tomorrow aren't you? or did you already move? sorry I can't remember when your move was suppose to be.
overall:
your head is larger and wider by enough that it definitely shows side by side
your ears a different shape as well as bigger than the ae head
your mouth is better done IMHO and a different shape....not just the bottom lip, the top lip as well...the two mouths have different expressions
your eyes wider and larger
your nose is longer and not so much of a scoop in the nose bridge
your cheeks are not as "puffy" as the ae
I also think your head is much cuter than the ae head too, by quite a bit, it's more mature and more anime looking, but then i guess that's your style.
from what I've checked up for you, a company CAN NOT copy-write the placement of nose,eyes, mouth,etc on a well balanced face (head in your case)
placement of nose
placement of eyes
placement of mouth
placement of ears
well proportioned faces/heads all have them in the same general area and if the heads are close in size they'll be pretty much in the same damn place if your a sculptor
so honestly I think you should go after and sue the jerks who accused you, as they had no physical evidence, all they had was a bunch of photoshopped layovers ...they honestly should have waited until the doll actually came out before false claims were made, as seriously this evidence is just gonna make them look like total assholes, but I guess they deserve to look like assholes for the way they went about this. and real live evidence talks in court, not some crappy little photoshop done by high schoolers.
oh and I know all your dolphies are at another friends house, but I think you should send me those 2 volks dolls that look a ton like the ae head, I'll take more comparison pics for you and hey if you want, I'll even do a layover with the ae doll with which ever of your volks doll heads looks the most alike. (I remember you wanted to do a layover with your volks dolls and the ae head and shove that in their faces) just let me know when your move is and when you'll have access to those doll heads again.
I'll be leaving tomorrow afternoon, gotta go and pack,
love ya big,
amber
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Mon Jul 5th, 2010, 10:33 pm
Re: I believe that every side of a story should be heard...
Here are 3 main reasons I did not respond sooner to this BS Problem:
1st was this horrid email From DenofAngels.com 's Newest Owner: Armeleia/Aimee
(who has apparently hated me since I won a scholarship to the Ohio Workshop retreat...I knew she wasn't a fan, but I didn't know it went as far as hatred)
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From: Aimee Armeleia <armeleia.aimee@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:30 PM
Subject: Regarding your banning on denofangels
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Let's face it ladysaiyuki, you had this coming. It was only a matter of time before I found a new reason to ban you. You have been a thorn in my side since the Ohio workshop retreat, I'm honestly glad that you have a few haters in the community as it makes that fact that I can't stand you so much easier to remove you from my community. I thought when you made your mature ted head I had enough needed to ban you back then, but at the time I did not own denofangels and did not have the power to get rid of you, and then you posted those comparison shots which lifted your ban. But now it's different and I now own the site and can do as I please.
Even if you prove your innocence with comparison shots to the public, it won't help you, as I made the statement that the claims against you have to be dropped by the companies before you would be allowed back on my website for a reason. As I have spoken with the companies and I know Mint on card and AE will never retract their claims against you even with proof as both they and I believe you are not capable of sculpting anything above cheap toys and even if you were talented enough to sculpt above that, it's your own fault that you brought this drama on yourself, you should not have sculpted something that had any similarities to a company that is superior to yours.
I think you should just face the fact that whether you like it or not, there are people in this community that will always hate you and everything you ever do will be attacked as you are a natural target. An irritating and talentless ditz like you should have never been able to gain the popularity that you did and it pisses me off to have to deal with your freak followers messaging and emailing me that "it's unfair" what happened to you. I don't give a **** what's unfair, I don't like you, never did, never will and I want you off my site PERMANENTLY! Hence the statement I made on DoA as I know Mint and AE will NEVER retract their claim even with Proof showing they are not the same.
so seriously this will be the last time I contact you as you are not worth my time,
~A
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so as anyone can see from this email, it's very obvious that DOA's newest owner hates my guts, always has, has not only tried to get rid of me before (Armeleia personally led attacks on DOA before this with my SD Ted, she personally locked my threads and posted on DOA that I was a copy artist (I have screen shots of this old dispute from DOA, and after it was beyond a shadow of a doubt that I was totally innocent, DOA's old owner and as well as a couple of moderator, they personally asked that I never mention on doa again that I was accused of being a copy artist by one of their main moderators....I knew they asked this of me because it made doa look like a terrible accusitory guilty until proven innocent community, as honestly that is just what they had become)). Armeleia has no intention what so ever of ever letting me back on to Den of Angels. she has made that crystal clear with her nasty email. she also told several people on doa about sending me this email but she failed to mention to several of them the way she worded it to me.
I'm really very sorry to all that this email of armeleia's has offended, but I really wanted everyone to know why I pretty much fell of the Doll community's radar, as I felt no matter what I Proved, it wasn't going to make any difference, as denofangels newest owner(Armeleia) seems to have made sure of this.
Armeleia/Aimee has shown her true colors to me completely...she's done some nasty things in the past that should have made me a little weary of her personality, as at the Ohio workshop retreat, she creeped not only me out but several others at the first night of the ohio workshop retreats dinner table, bragging of what a kick she got out of Banning people off of Den of angels, at the time she was just a mod, not the owner of the site. she made jokes about making certificates of banning people off of DOA, and she bragged that she had banned like a thousand people (and NO I was NOT the only person that heard her say all of this twisted stuff, she proudly said it in front of everyone at our table which was one of 2 tables for the OWR) that should have given me an instant hint about her character and the kind of person she really was.
and Yes I forwarded armeleia's email she sent to me in Jan. to several people right after a got the nasty email. as I wanted people to know why I didn't care that much about over-stressing and rushing to prove myself and my sculpt yet again, like I had done with every single doll I've ever made.
Armeleia HERSELF, has attacked me before on previous sculpts, but as soon as everything got cleared up and I was completely proven innocent, I was let back on to DOA but asked by not only mods but the old/original owner of DOA to never again mention that I was accused of being a copy artist by DOA...as it would look bad on DOA for attacking an innocent person with NO PHYSICAL PROOF...and you know what...that's what she did again, but this time she hid behind the phrase, it's a company dispute with LS /MOC and AE to attempt to make herself look like a good person... fully knowing that no matter what I did she would never let me on her newly acquired site.
from what I got from the email is that Armeleia had talked to Lindsey of MOC/AE and either convinced her to not retract their false statement no matter I did or said and proved, this would discourage just about anyone with a heart I'm sure into believing that all attempts would be futile.
Armeleia herself told several well known people in the community of the message she sent me, she just didn't tell them all the way she worded it.
someone also told me that Lindsey of MOC said that she'd be Glad to talk to me, which was complete CRAP, cause if she was willing to talk to me, she would have come to me first, but she didn't even attempt...She deliberately ignored my obvious dissatisfaction of the products I received, and she even admitted that she did not respond or even comment on my dissatisfaction of the products she had sent to me, she just bought into and passed on the BS shopped photos that were given to her by low life (oh so trustworthy) creeps of Den of Demons. NO physical evidence at ALL
if Lindsey of MOC had contacted me directly and first before all of this crap hit the fan, I would have GLADLY offered to send MY PROTOTYPE DOLL to her for comparison if she had and all of the terrible nasty FALSE allegations would have been avoided easily, but with the method that she took, I have placed her in the same category as those that have repetitively attacked me unjustly with NO PHYSICAL PROOF! and now I wouldn't trust her even if my life depended on it.
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Mon Jul 5th, 2010, 10:39 pm
Re: I believe that every side of a story should be heard...
Wow, you've had a lot of stuff going on. Good and bad. Don't listen to those haters cause you have loyal fans and friends right here!
It's so good to hear from you again though. I'm glad things are finally getting together for you. I'm excited to see what the future holds ^_^
And after seeing all of this, I only love you more. People are so jealous of you and your work and frankly they are immature. Your dolls are beautiful! I have two of them and they are both yours. And I honestly plan to have all of my future dolls be yours! So I'm glad to see you overcoming all those jealous people.
It's so very nice to see you and hear from you again! Keep it going, Lady Saiyuki! You have your supporters and we're all behind you! Keep moving forward!!
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Mon Jul 5th, 2010, 10:50 pm
Re: I believe that every side of a story should be heard...
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Den of Demons is a Hate site that was built at first to make fun of and Mock Den of Angels and then when they ran out of nasty things to say about denofangels, their moderators and it's old owner it turned into just a nasty hate site for doll owners and dolls they did not like, going as far as
to make fun of/and to do there best to tear apart the person or doll they disliked but to go as far as to physically harass and attempt to hurt those that they did not like. it's a wank site for low-lives to gather and share their pathetic and meaningless banter of jealously and hatred.
I was shortly informed after the BS hit the fan, that there were pages and pages of pure hatred of Me and my dolls that I made, long before Jan. of this year, they even had pages of them making fun of my pregnancy, and taking bets on when I'd miscarriage, there was even members that were daring each other to run into my pregnant stomach to try and cause me a miscarriage at events I went to while I was pregnant. (several different former active member of Den of demons, as well as a few of people that went on purely for curiosity came forward and told me of the horrid attempts to harm my at the time unborn child, they all named the same exact low life by name and by screen name).
Den of Demons member Amaira_Rose, whose real name is Brittany, at MetroCon 2009 took that nasty bet from Den of demons and ran into my pregnant stomach at the convention and then Ran off immediately with not only my husband as a witness, but 2 Metrocon staffers, including a security staffer as well as a few that were around my doll table. At the time, I was not aware of it at the time that it had been done on purpose, so I treated it as if it were an accident and I told the Metro security staffer that it was ok and she most likely didn't do it on purpose. As the Metro security asked if I wanted the girl found and kicked out of the convention, but I said no and that it must have been an accident. Imagine how stupid I felt when I found out that she had done it on purpose...I was mortified that there were such people in this world that would sink so low as to attempt to harm an unborn child out of a sick and twisted bet from low lives off of a hate site.
if I would have know at the time that my child's life was in danger from these "S*** F***'s" I would have called the police and notified the convention of this disgusting attempt of MURDER!I lost serious heart after hearing that these sick twisted people would sink to this kind of thing, but that is just the type of "credible" people that hang around of Den of Demons. and I warn them now...any further attempts of future attacks like that, I will Prosecute to the furthest extent of the LAW!
the people of Den of Demons have attacked me before, they've made countless Photoshops over the years trying to tarnish or ruin my reputation, they've contacted any company possible that would make allegations against me, they have plenty of posts on their "hidden" forum (it's a members only viewable section of the site) so I encourage everyone curious of these distasteful, despicable, and hateful people and their nasty posts about their hatred for me to join that site and see for yourself the nasty things they have said about me and the dolls I make, as they have been posting about me and hating on me for a few years now...bitching and complaining about how they can't figure out why I'm popular all the way up to them making fun of my pregnancy and taking bets on when I would miscarriage,etc. it's just disgusting that there are people like that in the world.
I would not be surprised in the least if DOD starts taking down posts from the hate threads they have on their site about me, as I've been told by several people that several pages have already been deleted/taken down, due to the possiblity of being placed in jail for accessory to attempted murder. which can get you quite the lengthy sentence of jail time.
All active members of DOD, need to grow up and get a life...and stop being whiny little pricks, that are so miserable with their own life that they have the need to tear down and mock others out of pitiful jealousy and Hatred, DOD active members must lead some seriously sad and pathetic lives... and I will no longer buy into their attempts to drive me down the "drama road"...as they are not worth it....this thread will be my last post about them, unless I have one or more of them arrested for their despicable physical attacks or future attacks...
I do not need the love of members of Den of Demons or Den of angels newest owner to be a doll artist, nor do I care about their pitiful opinions of jealously or pathetic hatred anymore. It's not worth the stress and it's not
worth the hassle.
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And lastly the other main reason I pushed this matter off, was that I had just recently had a baby, it was my first baby, I had a very very difficult and bad pregnancy, when the false allegations were made, I literally was at a psychologists office (I have the documentation to prove it) and was being evaluated only to find out I had what was called Postpartum depression(it's a chemical imbalance that many 1st time mothers sadly suffer from), and I had a pretty severe case of it as well, and due to me not having the help I needed to take care of my child and myself as well, it got pretty bad, my own friends and family didn't even recognize me as me anymore, as I was usually a very upbeat, overly to trusting and overall a very happy person, I had become very depressed and very paranoid and far overly distrusting of people near or around my baby...I just wasn't myself...and what little was still myself wasn't quite there anymore...but with the right help I was able to get back to myself over the past few months.
as of right now I've just gotten over my postpartum depression well enough to function like my old self again, I have a wonderful and loving husband, gorgeous daughter, wonderful friends and family, and all of the wonderful people that have been touched or moved by the dolls I create and that is all I need to move forward. I will continue to create more and more beautiful dolls and I will continue to do what I love, starting with my Yokai series, Journey to the west dolls...I will not answer to anyone ever again, as I do not care what others think, and I do not need them to continue with my dream.
I will have my first prototype yokai series doll hopefully near completion by the end of summer if not my first two and I will post them when I'm near done with them and I will not entertain drama dogs like Den of Demons ever again.
thanks for your time and support of all that have believe in and loved me, your love and support is greatly appreciated from the bottom of my heart!
~LS
ps. I will also be posting a TON of snippets of the wonderful emails that have been sent to me over the months as a spirit lifter for me on this thread as well... I will not name names or post anyones emails, as I don't want anyone to be wrongfully harassed for supporting me.
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Mon Jul 5th, 2010, 11:00 pm
Re: I believe that every side of a story should be heard...
oh and I have heard rumors that Armeliea has claimed she never sent me a message, which I'm not sure I believe this rumor, as from the attitude and past issues that have come up between myself and Armeliea have not shown me any signs to believe this to be true. as she personally has attacked me before as a copy artist and was proved that she was totally and dead WRONG, and she flat out REFUSED to apologize for accusing me, even though that is all I asked for a simple apology for being WRONGLY accused, and then not only did another moderator, but the old owner personally asked me to never mention that I was accused by a Denofangels moderator ever again, as it would not look very good for denofangels moderators, especially ones that have been with the site since it's creation, running around making FALSE accusations like she did and I've met in in real life and seen the way she acts and have heard from her own mouth (I was NOT the only one who heard and saw the way she acted at Ohio workshop retreat a couple of years ago as I was NOT the only one there) bragging out loud for all to hear, some nasty terrible things she thought and did on DOA and of it's members.
all I know is that the email that I posted above was actually sent to me, at my email inbox....there were several people physically standing with me at the time when I received this email (as there were several people staying with me helping me take care of my child when this crap was going on) and not only have I shown this email above to over 50 people at the last convention I was at on a computer, logged into my email. I have also forwarded this message to more than 20 people within a few hours of me receiving it. and several of them emailed armeliea and got pretty nasty responses themselves with threats that they would only receive 1 warning before their doa accounts would be suspended and if they persisted still with the matter, banned.... for harassing a moderator. as they all contacted me with the responses they got in person or by email or phone, so honestly it's not looking like I could even begin to believe that Armeliea herself didn't send this to me.
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and as well, I've heard some pretty funny things about me magically making people up, which is pretty funny and laughable IMO. especially being that I'm not the only one who knows all the people on my forum, but everyone that I've been accused of "making up" are known not only by myself, but hundreds of other people in the Anime community, and yes the anime community is FAR bigger than the doll community is.
and cause there seems to be too many people who know about my personal business...
as there are at least 20 people here on LS that not only know me very very well and are very close to me, they have also stayed with me to help me take care of the baby from anywhere between a few days to a few months....right now I have someone who is on my board who has been living with me for months.
10 of these people who have stayed with me are related to me....and one in particular of the 20 has a big mouth (no offense and you know who you are) and sends tells anyone and everyone my business....whether I know them or not....but my friends and family are who they are and I love them just the same.
as for my recent hospitalization, yes it was for suspected appendicitis... and I was suppose to that night be on a conference call with several people from the Anime community, as I help Run conventions quite often in the state of FLorida, as I was in the Anime community for over a decade long before I was ever in the doll community, and yes I picked up the phone
while I was at the hospital, as I was bored, tired, irritated, and wanted to go home as hospital tests and stays are not fun, nor are they a welcome routine to me....as I hate being ill and hate being in hospitals and try to avoid them when I can, but when I answered the phone, it was my conference call buddies with a bunch of questions about an upcoming convention I was going to help run later this year...and I told them yes, I was in the hospital and no I wasn't dying...told them why I was there and that I was pretty sure I was going to be ok....but like a lot of my friends in the Anime community, they always assume the worst when I'm sent to the ER by my primary care doctors now.... and many of them blow things out of proportions sometimes....and like telephone and wildfire....gets spread around like crazy...
in the anime community, I have a bit of a bad rap for not taking the greatest care of my physical health, I have a historyof Bleeding Ulcers in my stomach, I use to cough up Blood (and not just little tiny bits, large flowing quanities that make people think that I could've die at any moment kind of amounts) and this was not just seen by a few people, this was seen by 100's of people across Fl as well as at Anime Expo and Otakon (some people freaked out when they saw it, some thought It was live action cosplay of death scenes from a show) at the time I didn't have medical insurance, so every time I'd cough up blood in front of people, first thing I'd say is Don't call an abulance, I don't have insurance....but sadly enough sometimes people didn't listen to me, or sadly enough I'd even pass out from blood loss, I even racked up thousands of Dollars in medical debt.
even on the day of my college graduation, dressed up in an alice and wonderland type dress and apron, in front of quite a few people I threw up quite a bit of blood (scared the crap out of several of my best friends (didn't phase my gaming teacher, as he had seen me cough up blood countless times over my college years)).
but due to this past of mine a lot of my friends and acquaintances from the anime community worry far too much about my health.
and they always assume the worst, as most of them have seen first hand what I've been through...
I use to work 5 jobs and go to school fulltime through college (I went to a private art college, that was NOT covered by any of the brightfutures scholoarships that I had), and as I did not have parents to fall back on for money, nor did I have parents to help pay my way or living expenses....I busted my ***,as I've always been a hard worker and I've always strived to do my best and I have always pushed myself to the limit if it meant I'd better myself in some way....
and no I'm not sharing this information with anyone to make anyone feel sorry for me, and no one should feel sorry for me...as I'm not sorry....I busted my ***, I worked hard for my dreams. it made me who I am today and it's the reason honestly why people seem to like me....as I'm not some fake person who pretends to try, but someone who genuinely was happy, enjoys what they did and tried hard in all that they ever put their mind to and a generally socialable person.
(as there have been many "hate" emails I've recieved in my inboxes with questions like "why the hell do people even like you?" and many of them questioning "why do so many people "know" about what's going on with you?" and honestly I wanted to answer them)
I wouldn't be the person I am today if I hadn't gone through all the hardships that were handed to me in life. I am proud of who I am and what I do and will continue to do so, without the constant having to "answer" to anyone...
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Tue Jul 6th, 2010, 2:05 am
Re: I believe that every side of a story should be heard...
You know how I feel about the subject already, and know how I feel about mentioned people...I'll leave it at that.
Haters are going to hate...and you know you ain't doing nothing if you aint being hated on, so just know you're doing pretty good for yourself. Just don't let them get you down and if you need to rant and be brought back to terra firma I'm a phone call away.
I'm looking forward to seeing you Friday :3
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Tue Jul 6th, 2010, 8:44 pm
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Enough said. You already know how I feel, same as Ren. Love you forever!!!! Mom
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Tue Jul 6th, 2010, 11:48 pm
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This entire mess has made me lose a lot of faith in people on the internet... your in my prayers Natalie. I wish I could do something to help you and the situation.
So wish I could have gone to Metrocon to give you support- and to see your newest works! Even if I still lived in FL, it would have been 300 miles away.
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Wed Jul 7th, 2010, 7:33 am
Re: I believe that every side of a story should be heard...
Love you!  can't wait to see you soon! I think, now that the truth is out, who every wants to keep on hating; let them. Thats all DOD is good for, those people need the hate, their lives suck just that much that without people like you, they'll start hating eachother.....which I wouldn't be surprised if they did behind their backs... OMG! I made connection! All those girls from school that talked behind everyones back, including their own "best friends", that is the site for them. O.O so sad! So sad!
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Fri Jul 23rd, 2010, 8:23 am
Re: I believe that every side of a story should be heard...
Natalie, I am very happy to see you back, and DOA is not the end all be all of all doll forums. I think you are an amazing and talented artist who can be successful despite any setbacks. I own 6 of your dolls, and you would have to pry them from my cold dead hands. Your SD Ted (my Mickey) is being my model right now, I am making a couple sweaters) I will post him wearing them when I am done. He is gorgeous BTW.
Wishing you happiness!
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Wed Aug 4th, 2010, 2:13 pm
Re: I believe that every side of a story should be heard...
Thanks to all my wonderful friends and family who have supported me through this disgusting ordeal. your support makes me stronger and I appreciate each and everyone of you ^_^ not just those who have posted here on the site, but those who have also texted me, emailed me and messaged me here on the site.
As to the BS that Armeliea/Aimee started on DOA....honestly, I could care less...as everything she did with her post on DOA, she already told me prior with that horrid nasty email that was sent...I already knew that I’d never be back on DOA, nor do I ever wish to be a part of a community that is run by a Psychotic power hungry ***** like Armeliea.
I now believe more than ever that the horrid email I got earlier this year was indeed from her. as everything that was in the email she laid out as completely true...she said I’d never again be allowed back on DOA, which I had already accepted and no longer cared....and she also made it to where any doll I ever make will also be banned off HER site...which is also a part of keeping me off her site...
I do love the fact she claimed that I trashed talked DOA...no I didn’t, I trashed talked you specifically Armeliea. and said I wanted no part of a community with someone like you in it. yes I did mention about the old owner and another DOA moderator (Twigling (yes maker of the twiglimbs body) was the moderator to be exact...and Twigling was the moderator I cc’d on all communitcations during the time when Armeliea herself publicly accused me of copying a luts doll with my SD Mature Ted(I also cc’d all communication to the at the time Denofangels webmaster (who not only was kept a secret from the community, but not given an ounce of credit either for her years of service and help the Den of angels))(I stated in the communications with Twigling because I DID NOT TRUST Armeliea, and I had every right not to, I even brought up the nasty things she had said and done at the Ohio workshop retreat with Twigling when she asked why there were others cc’d for mine and Armeliea’s dispute....and Twigling knew more than well that what I was saying was 100% true....but she did proceed to say that Armeliea was only joking when she said those terrible and nasty things at the Ohio Workshop retreat....but I know she was only trying to protect a friend...which is admirable...even if the friend is a two faced power hungry psycho) I know that Twigling and the old owner of DoA only asked me to keep quite about being wrongfully accused by armeliea quiet because they wanted to protect DOA’s image, as they cared about the site (and that is admireable), I did not bad mouth them...I merely stated what they did).
I also find funny how she didn’t post on DoA all the Nasty things she did and she said at the Ohio Workshop retreat....as she wants to protect her image as best as possible....and as far as trash talking....everything I said about the Ohio Workshop retreat....wasn’t trash talking, it was relaying the truth about the horrible things you said and things you personally bragged about doing to people on Denofangels...
also thought it was funny that she claimed she had no contact with me since the ohio workshop retreat...as I cc'd Twigling and the at the time webmaster of DoA all of my communications with Armeliea up and until late march after the ohio workshop retreat. so n,o communication did not cease at the ohio workshop retreat...Armeliea bold faced lied about that.
as for my “rude” hand (will one day to be plural (one for my chibi bodies)) (which I’ve decided to give the title “Demon” Dedication hands) is not dedicated to the doll community in general like Armeliea falsely claimed....it’s dedicated to A******s like her and the low live trash of the hate community....now unless she’s implying that the whole of the doll community is part of the low live trash....that’s another story.....but Armeliea made the accusation, not me...
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Wed Aug 4th, 2010, 2:15 pm
Re: I believe that every side of a story should be heard...
and First off I want to make this Crystal clear, Amaira Rose/Brittany is no friend of mine, nor was she ever an actual friend, she was once an acquaintance, a Friend of a friend. but she terminated any and all acquaintanceship between us when she began going on DenofDemons even before I was ever pregnant and started trash talking me, what I do and bashing those close to me.
I never said once to her I was going to go online and “retract” what I have posted on the matter of last year, just because she looked me in the eyes and apologised and claimed she didn’t do it on purpose (as Amaira Rose/Brittany has claimed a lot of things that were flat out lies). I said I was going to update my post.
First of all, Amaira Rose/ Brittany has bold faced Lied to the DenofDemons people. She claimed a few things that were entirely false. I not only have access to a security footage from the incident to back my story, I also have 11 witnesses that are more than willing to testify on a witness stand in a court of law. some of those witnesses were also witness to Amaira Rose/Brittany’s coming up to me and talking to me at MetroCon this year.
Last year I went to MetroCon 2009, I was a little over 7 1/2 months pregnant. (I had several people around my table when the incident occurred and I also had 2 neighboring local artists who had tables next to me that were also witnesses, the neighboring artists near me had never met me prior to the convention, nor were we acquaintances or friends prior to the incident) there was also a MetroCon Security staffer at my table at the time of the incident as well.
Amaira Rose, Yelled out loud (what she yelled, I have no idea, it was a pretty loud part of the convention center, but I turned toward her direction) (and for anyone who knows Amaira Rose/ Brittany know that she’s NOT a small person, yes she is short, but she is a very size-able person, she may have possibly out weighed me while I was over 7 months pregnant and I’m at least 4 inches taller than her) she also had a very large Camera around her shoulder. and within seconds of me turning around, she slammed into my Stomach at what felt like full force, I instantly grabbed my stomach (there were over 11 on lookers, several who didn’t even know me came to my side asking if I was alright/ok) both my husband and the convention Security staff that was at my table and physically saw what had happened instantly got upset and began questioning Amaira Rose/Brittany, my husbands exact words were “what on earth are you doing running into a Pregnant woman like that?” and Amaira Rose/Brittany’s exact response was “Huh? I didn’t know she was Pregnant” and then within a few seconds of saying this, she ran off into the crowd and disappeared.
(which for any of you DenofDemon members, you’ll know immediately that what she said was a complete LIE as she had been joining other trash from DoD bashing my pregnancy and making fun of it for months prior to MetroCon, Amaira Rose/ Brittany, Knew very well and good that I was pregnant when she had run into my stomach.)
the MetroCon Security staff instantly sent another Security Staff after Amaira Rose, as they believed it was malicious and on purpose and she also alerted the Tampa Bay Convention Center that they may be a situation. But Amaira Rose/Brittany was no where to be found.
I was on the floor of the convention center for about 10 mins holding my stomach until the pain subsided a bit, I even had a bruise where Amaira Rose had run into me. it was larger than a baseball (many thought it may have been from the large camera that was around her shoulder, as when she ran into me her camera swung around her and also hit my stomach) the bruise appeared within minutes of her running into me and only began to look worse and worse within hours.
I tried to be optimistic and tried to reassure those around me that I wanted to believe that Amaira Rose/Brittany had not done it on purpose, I wanted to believe that no one was that heartless, nasty, despicable, and that much of a low life. cause at the time I didn’t know she had been making fun of my pregnancy and those who hung around me and were close to me. but I found out within a few months of the incident of all the terrible things that were being said about me, not just by Amaira Rose, but by a few others that were once acquaintances of mine as well.
Those around me at the time of the incident wanted me to call the Police to report her as I knew a lot of her personal information as well as several people around me even knew her address where she lived, as well as other information about her that I didn’t know.
The Full Truth is that Amaira Rose/Brittany, ran into my pregnant stomach, claimed to not know I was pregnant (which was a bold faced lie, being that she had been on DenofDemons making fun of my pregnancy the whole time I was pregnant), then not only didn’t apologise at all, but ran off within seconds of her claiming that she didn’t know I was pregnant.
then she lied and claimed that she “hung out with the table” after the incident....like I said, I have 11 witnesses all more than willing to testify on a witness stand in a court of law, to support all I have said above, but I also have access to security footage of the incident showing that within seconds of her running into my stomach, she ran off into the crowd and did NOT come back at all within the artist alley for the rest day (this was my last day at the convention, I went to a doctor to be checked out to make sure my baby and I were ok, as well as did not attend the last day of the convention (sadly enough I missed my baby shower that the convention and the friends of the convention held for me on Sunday at Metro))
Yes Amaira Rose/Brittany did come up to me with a mutual friend (who was sadly enough also accused by a few of being in on this terrible incident (I won’t get too in detail of the other party, as I believe she was not a part of this disgusting incident, and was more and likely accused by others only due to her knowing and being a friend of Amaira Rose/Brittany)) and there were 2 Security Staffers within feet of my table, watching to make sure there was going to be no trouble with Amaira Rose/Brittany when she came or anyone else seeking to cause any kind of disturbance with me. There was also the Tampa bay convention center Security on stand by to escort any trouble makers off the premises as well as on stand by to call the local Tampa bay Police if things were to escalate.
She came and asked me what was going on, and I said well I’d like to know myself what’s going on. and I asked for an explanation of what had happened last year...and Amaira Rose began to tell me...she had accidentally tripped over someone (who I don’t know and did not recall anyone within her range that she could have tripped over) and then she said, um but I barely bumped you right? and I said no, you ran into me pretty hard. and then I asked her if she could look me in the eye and tell me that she didn’t do it on purpose and she did look me in the eye and say that she didn’t do it on purpose. there were 6 witnesses that were there and next to me when Amaira Rose talked to me. 2 of which were also witnesses to last years incident, and they both said flat out they didn’t believe her for a minute and said the excuse didn’t connect at all with what had happened. Amaira Rose/Brittay claimed she was in a rush and needed to find a ride that day and she never gave an excuse as to why she did NOT apologise last year when the incident occurred and she also had no excuse as to why she claimed that she had no idea I was pregnant when she ran into me. she did apologise at MetroCon 2010 for running into my pregnant stomach at MetroCon 2009, this much is very true.
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Wed Aug 4th, 2010, 2:15 pm
Re: I believe that every side of a story should be heard...
I was civil, I was even nice about talking with Amaira Rose, as I’m just that kind of person that will try to give just about everyone the benefit of the doubt. and believe that most people deserve to have a second chance. but after her lies she’s claimed to DoD, it makes me question what else she’s lied about,and I’m starting to doubt she is actually sorry for what she did, I very much just feel that she just doesn’t want to look like the bad guy, she also doesn’t want me or my husband to call the authorities or to take her to court, as with the evidence against her, the witnesses, the security footage and such (I’ve already talked to a very well known and trusted friend of mine’s lawyer and they told me “with all that you have you should prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, your safety and the safety of your family should never have to be in jeopardy as if this went to court, the lawyer said I was 100% sure to not only win the case, but have more than enough evidence and witnesses to put Amaira Rose/Brittany in jail for many years to come, as all of the physical evidence was more than damning and 11 witnesses willing to testify against Amaira Rose/Brittany was just the “icing on the court cake so to speak”)
I no longer wish to hear anymore lies out of AmairaRose/ Brittany and I no longer wish for her to attempt to approach me or those I’m with at conventions I attend, I will be alerting all convention security staff to be on stand by if she attempts to cause anymore trouble (as the conventions will be all to glad to throw out a trouble maker and/or to permanently ban those who would try and harm others) and if Amaira Rose/ Brittany wishes to harass me any further, i will have no choice but to take matters up with the lawyer and press charges against her. I’ve also consulted with a local police officer as well and the advice he gave me was near identical to what the lawyer gave me. although he said, even though there was an apology made, I should still press charges against her, as someone like her is dangerous and should not be given an opportunity to do this sort of thing again. This is all I will say on this matter, unless Amaira Rose wishes me to take her to court and if it escalates to that, I will be posting all that happens within the court and I will make the sentence she receives public on my forum. The Criminal Justice records for arrests and sentences are posted and available for the public to see on the Govt sites, I will just make it easier for everyone to find her criminal record if she gives me any further causes to press charges on her.
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Sun Aug 22nd, 2010, 3:56 pm
Re: I believe that every side of a story should be heard...
I'd like to thank ErzaScarlet for her kind comment...but I removed it after talking to the attorney. as he said it is not something that should be posted on the internet. he asked me a strange question (he asked "would you go up to a rape victim and ask her if she'd like to post a video of her traumatizing experience on the internet to show the world what happened"....my answer of course was no) he said my situation was considered one of similar distress on a person's life, he asked me if I wanted to relieve that moment over and over again, and I responded again, no. he also asked me if I wanted my daughter to relieve that moment over and over in the future....and I again answered no.
he said evidence like that is really only something that should be shown to the police and in a court of law to protect the innocent from having to relieve a terrible moment over and over again via the internet.
he also pointed out that anything and everything I've ever said on my site or out in public has been plastered all over the net and criticized, what would make posting a video of the incident any different, accept that the hate community would have more to make fun of and criticize....
I was also recommended to keep my public posting of this incident to a minimum so to no longer give the hate community fuel for their nasty and despicable banter.
he also recommended that I make my forum private to the public and only posting members could view all of the site (make intro, news and gallery available to members who have not posted...and the rest of the members can view the entire forum after they've made a certain amount of posts...)
and I agree with the suggestions that were made to me...I will be making my forums private and removing the moderation that was placed on this forum, so to free it's members to post like they did before, but in a private forum, versus a Public forum where anything and everything they've said has been criticized for their supporting me and my dolls (I have removed many comments on this forum due to people being criticized or attacked by the hate community)
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